RE: SteemFlagRewards Project Update: Code Review - Prepping for SFR Credits

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RE: SteemFlagRewards Project Update: Code Review - Prepping for SFR Credits

imacryptorick in #utopian-io • 7 years ago

How about I'm not going to beat around the bush, mkay?

There is WAY-WAY-WAY more VP abuse than SFR, spaminator & Steem Cleaners, altogether can handle. Meaning that we have to decide what abuse we prioritize at the moment. The average Steemizen isn't flagging what THEY themselves consider abuse, so you can imagine how little we can change at the moment.
Should @magicdice incentivize their players in a different way? Hell, yeah
Should SFR do anything about that? Definitely not in the foreseeable future, because that would make us extremely ineffective

7 years ago in #utopian-io by imacryptorick

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skepticology 7 years ago (edited)

Currently @spaminator has over 2.75 million vested with more than 99.5% VP and @steemcleaners has over 1.5 million vested with more than 96% VP so for them to ignore @magicdice reward abuse is either incompetence or more likely intentional negligence.

I've just begun looking into SFR and I am astonished at the reward pool rape and spam being facilitated by the account. This single post has over 20 comments and $18 in rewards saying the same thing - "Follow on flag for bid bot abuse"

https://steemit.com/life/@esbjornbo/cloudy-7ls7kexz#@themarkymark/re-esbjornbo-cloudy-7ls7kexz-20190409t025418553z

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themarkymark 7 years ago

The rewards from SFR are a payment for the labor and risk involved in fighting spam and abuse.

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skepticology 7 years ago

No, it's 20 people posting the same thing under a whale account who has already flagged which is itself spam and reward pool abuse.

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themarkymark 7 years ago

Dude, you really need to decide what account to post from.

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skepticology 7 years ago

I have my reasons for posting like I am, if you want to ignore what I said then move along.

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imacryptorick 7 years ago

Will you chill and wait for the SFR token?
No one likes to current situation. That's the best the system allows us to do at the moment.
If you want to help code the SFR token, we can arrange that. If you just want to nag us from the backseat, it would say more about your intentions than you would like to reveal.

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anthonyadavisii 7 years ago (edited)

Quick Update:

Just created the SFRToken Discord bot and performed a couple test transactions. 1 with Python and 1 with SC2.

~~Working on the upvote mechanism now. We are moving but I welcome @ats-david's input in any technical aspects. It will be open source.~~

Wrong thread but all the same. Anybody is welcome to contribute.

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imacryptorick 7 years ago

To my knowledge @steemcleaners are rarely at 100%, which is the point where SP is truly wasted.
I don't know if the same applies to @spaminator.
As I stated before, @anthonyadavisii is working on a steem engine token, to replace the current reward system, which has clear drawbacks.
@anthonyadavisii, can publish a post detailing what work needs to be done to officially publish the token? Maybe a few interesting Steemizens will volunteer to finish the job faster (I can upvote any post that showcases significant contribution to the upcoming SFR token code)

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guiltyparties 7 years ago

The scope of Spaminator is to go after faucet/post/comment farmers and similar. It precedes this new age of dapps and games, which so far we've been counting as "services" due to community input. Spaminator is currently being recoded and the new code is being tested, preparing it for another 3 years of cleaning.

The scope of Steemcleaners is to go after fraud, which is plagiarism, id theft or deception, image plagiarism of various kinds, security threats like phishing and similar. Additionally, it educates people regarding copy/paste.

Spaminator and Steemcleaners are different projects and we're hoping to get scope documentation out soon. If you want to make a recommendation, go for it. If you think there are dapps who exploit the goodwill of the ecosystem and spam up the chain, make a post about it.

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skepticology 7 years ago

I already have pointed out the abuse and if you aren't going to act then it's on you. Im not interested in jumping through any of your hoops. Steem is full of con artists, frauds, and grifters, and your network of so called spam fighters is just another gang of abusers disguised as heros with the momentum of self righteous group-think.

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guiltyparties 7 years ago (edited)

I have no idea who you pointed anything out to aside from the comment I responded to that was directly linked to me. We have a submission form for that. Use it or tag me in your investigation posts specifically if you find an issue that needs to be resolved.

If you're referring to magic-dice, the best solution is to hold them accountable and strongly encourage them to use the blacklist api feature.

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skepticology 7 years ago

Have you contacted @magicdice about $10 upvotes to random comments? I'll bet you haven't. It is no different than bid bot abuse, you pay for a chance of a profitable upvote and the more comment spam you put on the blockchain the better chance you have, right? The SFR trails are also spam and reward pool abuse and completely unnecessary. My contests that did not require any upvotes but allowed contestants the option to upvote or leave a comment are flagged to 0 while this type of abuse is being encouraged by the perpetrators. When you step outside of the comfort zone of your friend network you can see how hypocritical and insane that is.

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guiltyparties 7 years ago

Ok now you're telling me something. What contests? Tag me on the Steemcleaners discord.

And no, I can't contact magicdice. I have no idea who runs it, all I know is that they took an os script and altered it.

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enforcer48 7 years ago

I heard @zombee is on the team.

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skepticology 7 years ago

https://steempeak.com/contest/@votum/contests-flagged

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guiltyparties 7 years ago

Do you want to talk about it on steem.chat since you don't like discord?

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