Oh, of course, to what the self is grasping, is an illusion. I think we talked to a satisfying degree about those self illusions, didn't we?

So I think people have to work on self realization in order to come to the conclusion that there is no real self.

In my work with clients I do one step after the other. Mostly it's about creating an atmosphere of trust and letting myself not being caught on grasping:) When I can succeed in letting go of judgemental thoughts, the sessions become really light and humorous.

In how I meant it, there is "a wrong spot" as the person has not yet realized that neediness must be contemplated with oneself before it's expressed in front of others as a demand, a desire, an order, a mandate etc.

If that happened and is realized then yes, it's true what you say that there is no wrong spot.

I wonder if a reading audience gets better what is meant by this exchange of our thoughts. I hope so.

The only difference between a purely business contract and an intimate relationship is the confidence of the parties, that has to do with what they say over there that everything that has to do with people has to do also with relationships.

I don't know if I understood that. A contract is designed in order to gain clarity about the nature of the relationship and to make the conditions transparent.

The nature of the relationship between the recipient of social benefits and the paying authority as the representative of the legislature is purely business. At least that is how it is presented. However, it is also somehow clear that in reality it is not a purely business relationship and this is the reason for the discomfort of the beneficiaries and the partial moral superiority of welfare.

However, I think it is best to pretend it is a cool business relationship, because I think morality has to be kept out, because otherwise it intervenes in this relationship from both sides in a very corrosive way and does more harm than good. Nevertheless, a moral value is still important, but you have to cultivate it within yourself and not give responsibility to the other. So both, the bureaucrat and the welfare recipient were good advised to act virtuous.

No, I am not projecting, I just followed your observation about yourself reading something and then changing your perspective - So maybe I should not say that you are a mindful person but you had a mindful moment ;-)