RE: Drugwars - Introducing FUTURE the new DrugWars Token.

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RE: Drugwars - Introducing FUTURE the new DrugWars Token.

raj808 in #drugwars • 7 years ago

You missed my point m8. I already made profit. I put the right amount in to get return 3X my initial investment.

The problem with a token is that the value will only be driven by the utility. Steem has value because of its economy and utility. Sure you will be able to swap future token for steem... But no one will know how much it will be worth against steem until... The future. And the value will be driven by how many people play and how much they put into the ecosystem in either steem or future token.

I've been worried by the economic modal of drugwars from the start. So I choose to exit now when I'm up on the initial amount of steem I put in. You make your own choice. 🙂

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zainenn 7 years ago

I'm not understanding why you would stop playing then? If you have only made crypto with it, why stop? I see your point. It is impossible le to know if a company will be successful, when investing in stock, let's say, there is no guarantee the company will be around. I have faith that Futureshock will be successful and be around on the steem blockchain for years to come. I also think people are blowing this all out of proportion. It as if no one who is playing this game has ever spent money on a game.

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raj808 7 years ago

It's simple. The value was garunted with steem return. It's questionable with future coin

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zainenn 7 years ago

Steem value is guaranteed? I remember joining the platform and it being at $2.15/steem, nothing is guaranteed. Do you support fundition and steemit inc? They seem to support Futureshock.

I see your point, there is risk. Yes that is true. The future coin is still steem based is it not? Being a coin built on the steem blockchain? All of its value currently comes from steem.

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cryptosharon 7 years ago

Not the point at all. Steem already has a value. What if you end up earning $0.0001 in this new shitty token but invested $500 thinking you were going to see some returns in maybe 3 or 7 months? Many people did this because they trusted the drug wars team not to fuck them over (which they did, and this is the reason for this whole thread, which you seem to either be missing or avoiding).

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zainenn 7 years ago

Why is it a shitty token out the gates tho? Not avoiding anything, observing all the discourse. When I spend money on Clash Royal I dont expect a ROI. What if it turns out this shitcoin becomes worth more than steem? I think they are building a gaming platform where all crypto currencies can part take, if I'm not mistaken. However it will be built on steem, utilizing SMT. Maybe Im wrong, I'm not above admitting it when I am. It is too early to make assumptions of intent. Fundition and Steemit Inc. support them, I feel like I do too.

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cryptosharon 7 years ago (edited)

It is a shitty token because it has no value. Imagine that you give a banker your gold and he gives you a certificate of that amount of gold. He didn't force you to give him that. Hidden within the contract is a clause that allows him to give you something of "equivalent value". The next month you need some of that gold and he gives you a plastic statuette of a cute dog. Yes, it's very pretty, but it's made of plastic. It's not reproducible, but it's worth is yet to be determined. When you're dealing with money, you're dealing with verifiable quality and exchangeability. It is the principle that gave birth to Bitcoin. Watch the Israel conference video by Nick Szabo. It explains exactly what makes a token be worth something. Future token is worth nothing right now, and it'll be worth very little for a long time. In Spanish we have a saying: "meter gato por liebre" (giving someone a cat instead of a rabbit). It's basically a switcharoo, a kind of scam very common around the world (especially in China I believe)

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zainenn 7 years ago

It has whatever value of steem was injected into it, doesn't it?

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birchmark 7 years ago

Not really, because all of this sort of stuff depends on what the market values it at. By buying the tokens from themselves with steem they can essentially "set" the price but not for long. If the rest of the market has no demand for it, it won't sell for that amount and the value will drop. It could go either way, but artificially increasing the value of the token by injecting steem into it certainly doesn't guarantee it will remain at that value. If they don't want to be No Mans Drugs they NEED to pay out the steem first. Not everyone will make up their loss from them doing that, but the steem spent by players will go back to players which is essential to not look like liars or scammers that rip people off.

This token might grow and it might be the way forward for not only drugwars but the "future" games they mention, but it might not too so the reward pool should be used up first so player spending goes to players. Artificially increasing the value of it in the way they / you describe does not make that coin just be that value now as it could drop dramatically pretty quick. Excited to see where stuff goes but no it is not as simple as the coins having the value of the steem injected into it.

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cryptosharon 7 years ago

Absolutely not. It has whatever value people give it. So far, people don't give it any value.

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