How long do I need to work before I can retire? An early 2019 re-evaluation

in #money7 years ago

Based on my last month’s expenditure, I need around £1400 a month to cover my basic needs and wants, which break down roughly as below:

  • Mortgage = £600 a month, or £7200 a year
  • Other fixed expenditures = £500 month, or £600 a year
  • Disposable expenditure = £300 month, or £3600 a year
  • Total expenditure = £1400 a month, or £16800 a year.
  • Total expenditure post-mortgage (10 years to go) = £800 a month, or £7200 a year.

It follows that in order to retire I need the following:

  • £16 800 a year until I’ve paid my mortgage off (assuming I don’t remortgage/ overpay).
  • Then £7200 a year until death.

My current future retirement situation – Full retirement guaranteed at age 55, in just over 9 years


As I’ve outlined before, one of the deserved compensations for enduring the mental abuse of a career in teaching is a decent pension – and after 16 years in the front line I’ve managed to accumulate one that’s worth about £7200/ year or £800 a month that I can claim from age 60 onwards.

I don’t know whether I endured teaching long enough deliberately, but my teacher’s pension is exactly sufficient to meet by basic needs and wants post-mortgage, until death (it pays out until death, that’s the idea of a pension!)

In addition to this I currently have £47500 in secure savings (and a £3K reserve fund/ float I don’t count as savings), which is sufficient to meet my basic needs and wants for five years if I draw down at the rate of £800 a month or £7200 a year, assuming I’ve paid my mortgage off, which will be the case 4 months after I turn 55, so other than this 4 months of mortgage payments, I’m on target to retire at age 55!

The above figures work out very neatly and look good for my post-mortgage retirement. Note I’m not factoring in any accumulation gains. If these happen or not, I’ll just have to adjust accordingly.

Additional earnings and savings required to retire earlier


This is very easy to work out: given that I’ve saved sufficient to retire post-mortgage at 55, all I need to do to work out how much I need to retire how many months or years earlier is to multiply by current basic expenditures by £800 for months and £16800 for years. I end up with the following stats:

Additional savings required to retire at selected ages

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  • To retire at age 54, in 2027 I need an additional £16800, or total wealth of £64800
  • To retire at age 52, in 2025, I need an additional £50400, or total wealth of £98400
  • To retire at age 50, in 2023 I need an additional £84000, or total wealth of £132000
  • To retire at age 48, in 2021 I need an additional £134400, or total wealth of £182400

Bringing my full-retirement date forwards…


Given my recent increase in income, being back in the black a few months earlier than expected, I’m feeling confident that I can earn and save an additional £50K by 2025 no problem.

I’m setting as a push goal the challenge of earning an additional £85K over the next four years – so I could retire fully at 49, one month before 50.

I mean, who doesn’t like a ‘beat the round number’ challenge?!?

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To retire at age 48, in 2021 I need an additional £134400, or total wealth of £182400

With your current Steem, that is 17 dollar Steem in 2 years. Yes, you'd have to sell it all but, worth noting as that is actually not too far off where I think it could get in that time ;)

I'm actually holding steem equal ovr the years.

If it 10* by 2021 that's me retired at 50, or thereabouts.

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If it 10* by 2021 that's me retired at 50, or thereabouts.

I think that you are in with a good chance of at least this number which wouldn't be bad to skim a little at a high and hold away for a bit of a dip and keep earning on the rest.

Going on numbers, I am quite confident that I will be able to retire around 1 minute 30 seconds after I take my last breath. I am so far behind when it comes to preparing for retirement that I have to take the approach of teaching my daughter to be smart enough to earn for me. If not, I will quietly walk off into the sunset.

I'm just lucky to have a teacher's pension that makes it possible.

Even if I won £200K tomo I'd still work - just work I wanna do (which pays significantly less than work I don't wanna do!)

Walking off into the sunset or Senilicide (my new word of the week thanks to Marshall Sahlins) is a noble option.

As long as it comes from you rather thean being induced 'Logan's Run' style (IMO one of the best films ever).

Passing work down to ur kids is an interesting one - sort of happens already in the UK with many people given the cost of elderly care!

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As long as it comes from you rather thean being induced 'Logan's Run' style (IMO one of the best films ever).

I haven't seen it, which is no surprise since I haven't seen much :D

Passing work down to ur kids is an interesting one - sort of happens already in the UK with many people given the cost of elderly care!

This is what I really don't want to do so as soon as I become a burden, I will join Logan.

Well I'll say that you're already on the right track to being financially secure post retirement

Who knows it might be possible with steem to retire before that round number

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Do you plan to use Steem to generate any portion of your retirement cash flow?

Not in this model.

I just treat steem as a savings account.

My minimum outppoint for a powerdown is around $5 steem.. even if that happens I'd only PD 1 or 2 rounds and hodl the rest.

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Ah, okay. But it still counts toward the total savings figure, right?

Yup!

-20% for the taxman of course!

Does your taxman take 20% of crypto holdings? Always curious to hear about this stuff, in the Netherlands I pay less than 1% if I hold more 'savings' than 60000$.

I've not idea how tax on returns on crypto work in the UK TBH - I just take 20% as a baseline shaft that'll catch up with me at some point!

You get the first £10K of returns on dividends per annum tax free, dunno whether crypto is in the same asset class.

Much is unclear here as well - but for now crypto falls under that low tax rate :D

I must say that I'm quite torn on tax - I hate it now I'm self-employed and into crypto, but I have one of the best pensions in the world to look forward to after 16 yrs in teaching, which is basically down to other people paying tax.

Of course that pension is only as secure as the British state.

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When you calculate your retirement plan with excel.
Me (an excel fanatic): Heavy breathing haha

Just one thing, keep in mind that your 800 a month for retirement will be worth less in 20 years due to inflation. This is just a factor to keep in mind in case the pension is not adjusted accordingly which it will likely/hopefully do ;)

I'll just adjust later for inflation. Fair point though.

The TPS is index linked.

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